Maria Dahvana Headley (whose new Beowulf has just appeared) and Emily Wilson (translator of The Odyssey, now at work on The Iliad) joined LTAC Director Susan Bernofsky for a far-ranging conversation on the radical practice of making translation a space of resistance and joy. Jun 3, 2021 I thought I had already learned how much there always is to learn, for instance in trying to leap across the vast stylistic gaps from Seneca to Euripides. None is independently striking; their force comes from their juxtaposition with one another pat pat pat, like raindrops on a metal roof. Her complex answer is tied up with the history of womens education. The Iliad: A New Translation by Caroline Alexander by Homer, Dominic Keating, et al. Called Septuagint after its 70 translators, this Greek version became a foundational text, both for the early Christian church and for the impossible standard to which all subsequent translations are held: faithfulness. I think about status very differently now as a result. But no less than that of polytropos, the etymology of complicated is revealing. Arnold wrote a famous essay, On Translating Homer. Though he never produced a translation himself, I think he would have recognized his Homer a poet eminently rapid, eminently plain and direct in Wilsons. I remember that being one of the big questions I had to start off with.. You have all this information, and you can regurgitate, in the sense that you can strategize to translate an English sentence or a Latin sentence. Norton trumpets it as the first English translation of the Odyssey by a woman. (Anne Daciers French prose version appeared in 1708.) Currently at work on a translation of The Iliad, Wilson is animating classical literature for new audiences and revealing connections between the social, political, and ethical issues they explore and those our current era faces. It has to go very close to sounding silly, but without quite getting there. This is what sweetness and light is. I dont know what to say to those people, honestly. Wilson laughed her buoyant laugh. Many of these works are the first English versions by women. Dismal as it has been in other respects, the fall of 2017 has been good to readers of Homer. Yes, there are boring passages about How Many Boats Are Present but there's also an intensely emotional and gripping (gripping like the narrative makes it impossible not to feel like your heart is being crushed in a vice) climax and conclusion. And there are numerous translators who have attempted to translate the Iliad, each with their own advantages and vices. You want to have a sense of anxiety about this character, and that there are going to be layers we see unfolded. There have also been some marvellous female literary responses to classical literature in recent years not translations, but rather imitations, riffs, remixes or acts of resistance, including Alice Oswalds Memorial, Carsons Nox and Margaret Atwoods The Penelopiad all three of which find in classical literature a precise, devastating way of speaking about loss, grief, guilt and rage. Help others learn more about this product by uploading a video! I want to be saying, after multiple different revisions: This is the best I can get toward the truth., The First Woman to Translate the Odyssey Into English, https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/magazine/the-first-woman-to-translate-the-odyssey-into-english.html, A page from a notebook Wilson kept while translating the Odyssey.. Graduate Coordinator: Katelyn Stoler 236 Cohen Hall, 249 South 36th Street University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 19104-6304 (215) 573-0250 kastoler@upenn.edu Ruden and Carson are able to reimagine English sentences and English poetry through their tense, difficult encounters with Greek and Roman literature. CreditGeordie Wood for The New York Times. Our payment security system encrypts your information during transmission. Unable to add item to List. It is about the broadest of human inheritances: our constant awareness of all that we will lose, are losing, have lost. Emily Rose Caroline Wilson (born 1971) is a British classicist and the Professor of Classical Studies at the University of Pennsylvania. "We discussed toxic masculinity, pseudo feminism, and which pronouns are most appropriate for Homer," says Purkert. There was a problem loading your book clubs. At the center of each of Homers epics is a warrior. The Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library hosts the Mark Strand Memorial Reading Series and invites accomplished American poets to read their work. [1] In 2017 she became the first woman to publish a translation of Homer's Odyssey into English. She and another female colleague who had a child who was the same age as me organized this day care, first in my house and then it moved to this building near Somerville College.. When Telemachus visits Menelaus, a slave girl brings him bread and many canaps. (Well, there is a wedding in progress.) We can never be certain that both these stories belonged to Homer. THE ODYSSEY By Homer Translated by Emily Wilson 582 pp. In one noteworthy choice, enslaved characters, described as "dmoiai" or "dmoioi" in the Greek, are often referred to as "slaves" in Wilson's versions, instead of "maids" or "servants"; Wilson has expressed surprise that so many modern North American translations obscure the social structures, noting "how much work seems to go into making slavery invisible. Only last year came this new English translation by Emily Wilson, an American academic and allegedly the first woman to translate Homer into English. Written in plain, contemporary language. 180 Dr Emily Wilson @EmilyRCWilson Speaker: Emily Wilson (University of Pennsylvania) Professor of Classical Studies Title: "Iliad 24: A Reading from My Translation" He has published translations of the ILIAD, the ODYSSEY, the AENEID, and the poems of HESIOD. Polytropos, Wilson said, in her deep, buoyant voice, pointing to the fifth word u of the 12,110-line epic poem that I had come to her office at the University of Pennsylvania to discuss. Odysseus, after slaying the suitors, tells his son, Telemachus, to kill the women. Of the 60 or so answers to the polytropos question to date, the 36 given above couldnt be less uniform (the two dozen I omit repeat, with minor variations, earlier solutions); what unites them is that their translators largely ignore the ambiguity built into the word theyre translating. is professor of classical studies at the University of Pennsylvania. When you purchase an independently reviewed book through our site, we earn an affiliate commission. I am learning it in a whole new way with the Iliad. This is a short version of the episode. , she has also published translations of Sophocles, Euripides, and Seneca. , Hardcover Homer and other bards of the time could recite, or chant, long epic poems. Definitely worth it. , W. W. Norton & Company (September 19, 2023), Language And yet I also recognize that a lot of the attention for the book was not unrelated to my being a woman. Department Colloquium: Emily Wilson (Penn) "Iliad 24: A Reading from My Translation" Thursday, November 4, 2021 - 4:45pm to 6:15pm 402 Cohen Hall and also on Zoom, registration below. [2] A graduate of Balliol College, Oxford, in 1994 (B.A. Some trade-offs are inevitable. Now we have an excellent new translation of the epic by the British classicist Emily Wilson. Antigone was, as Prins reminds us, a massive influence on the work of George Eliot, who read the drama in terms of opposition between individual and society; it is a play about political resistance as much as duty. Professor Emily Wilson, Classical Studies and Comparative Literature, "Iliad Translation In Progress: A reading." A dramatic reading of BOOK 1 of the poem, in current in-progress iambic pentameter verse translation, followed by Q and A. Thursday, November 7, 4:30-6:00 p.m. Now Wilson has returned with an equally revelatory translation of the first great Homeric epic: the Iliad. Office Hours: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_ITWAWPXKjDn2CaB5IGbow07gIF3hOvFt6tRSZMzdIo/edit Education: FAAR 2006-2007 Ph.D. (Classics and Comparative Literature) Yale University, 2001 They include the undervaluing of translation as a scholarly activity in the modern academy, which means that, in a world where women are already struggling for legitimacy in a historically male-dominated field, female classicists are not given a strong institutional motive to work on translations. Almost none have French or Latin roots. Her mother, Katherine Duncan-Jones, a Shakespeare specialist, taught English literature at Oxford; her mothers brother, Roman history at Cambridge; her mothers father, a disappointed philosopher disappointed because, though he went to Cambridge, he couldnt get a job there taught at Birmingham; and her mothers mother, Elsie Duncan-Jones, also at Birmingham, was an authority on the poetry of Andrew Marvell. But most have preferred iambic pentameter, the default meter for English poets. Introduced by: Amy Stolls. In the Odyssey, preoccupations shift, radically. 63)", "The Norton Anthology of Western Literature", "The Norton Anthology of World Literature", "Child, Busby and Sissay join 2020 Booker Prize judging panel", "Emily Wilson's Odyssey translation is short listed for the national translation award", "MacArthur 'Genius' Grant Winners Attest to 'Power of Individual Creativity', "Historically, men translated the Odyssey. I find this to be a very good translation, into modern English. "[18], Wilson has noted that being a woman did not predetermine her critical work as a scholar, reader or translator, and has expressed discomfort with the media reception of her work in terms of gender, since it tends to obscure her primary goals (such as the use of regular meter and attention to sound), and risks erasing the work of other female Homerists and female translators. Both projects were outgrowths of her old desire to spend a little bit longer with these authors. Victorian classical scholar Jane Harrison. Often they are long, rolling words: polyphloisboio thalasses, the much-thundering sea, or rhododaktylos eos, rosy-fingered dawn. Wilsons short line preserves some, but others vanish or survive only as adverbs (pensively Penelope sat down). "[2] The work received the Charles Bernheimer Prize of the American Comparative Literature Association in 2003. The spell of Greek, for Virginia Woolf and many women of her generation, lay in its near-unintelligibility: it was a language that drew attention to the foreign element that is present in any language and thus facilitated a shift away from Victorian poetics. Although translation might seem a natural step for a scholar preoccupied by the connections between antiquity and later texts, Wilson was dissuaded from pursuing it. Home . His Odyssey was archaic and fragmentary, an artifact forged by firelight and rusted by time. But Hutchinsons work exists only in manuscript; like that of most British female classical translators before this generation, her work was largely unknown beyond her own immediate circle. You might be inclined to suppose that, over the course of nearly half a millennium, we must have reached a consensus on the English equivalent for an old Greek word, polytropos. Shipping cost, delivery date, and order total (including tax) shown at checkout. Perhaps the most famous such expression is in Matthew Arnolds On Translating Homer, his series of lectures in 1860 when he was Oxford professor of poetry. In fact 'Homer' may not be a real name but a kind of nickname meaning perhaps 'the hostage' or 'the blind one'. Wilson is more understated: Tell me about a complicated man. Too understated, one might think at first but gradually the adjective comes to feel just right. : The media wouldnt have cared otherwise. But the legacy of male domination is still with us inside the discipline of classics itself and in how non-specialist general readers gain access to the history and literature of the ancient world. Find all the books, read about the author, and more. Early arguments about translation were over the Old Testament. Emily Wilson, the first woman to translate the Odyssey into English, is as concerned with these surrounding characters as she is with Odysseus himself. The first English Bibles translator, John Wycliffe, was disinterred and his bones were burned for the heresy of translating into English, and his successor, William Tyndale, was excommunicated, sentenced to death by strangulation and burned at the stake. This year marks the publication of the first female translation of five of Plutarchs Roman Lives (by Mensch, who has also translated Arrian, Herodotus and five of Plutarchs Greek Lives). It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. For the love of whatever please stop asking, it's legit distressing. The wide sea keeps him trapped upon some island, captured by fierce men who will not let him go. Theres Alexander Popes for wisdoms various arts renownd; William Cowpers For shrewdness famed/And genius versatile; H.F. Carys crafty; William Sothebys by long experience tried; Theodore Buckleys full of resources; Henry Alfords much-versed; Philip Worsleys that hero; the Rev. We can only hope that, in the coming years, more British and American women including people who are neither ladies nor white will begin to translate Greek and Roman texts into English. Why was tragedy so important for women of this period? In this context, Emily Wilson's translation of the Odyssey is notable for its ability to demonstrate that the world of Odysseus is alien to the contemporary conjuncture--is not possible in the world of powder, lead, and the printer's bar--but that its alienness can be comprehended according to a translation structure that renders it . She has done a huge amount of careful archival work, which she uses to show that the process of staging these productions contributed enormously to the community identity of the new institutions: they were performing not only their high moral tone, but also their self-reliant, self-respectful bearing, and their closeness to one another. Later Bible translators failed to meet that mystical standard. The. In Britain, Lady Jane Lumley translated Euripides and, in the 17th century, Lucy Hutchinson produced the first complete translation into English of Lucretius. Female classical translators have tended to approach the original more gingerly, with more careful discipline. Some of these plays Antigone and the Sophoclean Electra in particular could be moulded to fit repressive contemporary ideals of womanhood, since their heroines demonstrate selfless devotion to dead male family members. But to the modern English reader who does not know Greek, does a man of many turns suggest the doubleness of the original word a man who is either supremely in control of his life or who has lost control of it? As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. Poetry News Guernica Talks to Emily Wilson While She Translates The Iliad By Harriet Staff Guernica 's Ben Purkert interviewed Odyssey translator Emily Wilson! The first English translation of The Iliad by a woman (Alexander) came out last year. The fact that its possible to translate the same lines a hundred different times and all of them are defensible in entirely different ways? But then she goes on to give us Penelopes ordinary grief: She cried a long, long time, / then spoke again where cried (not wept) and the repeated long evoke Penelopes sobbing as powerfully as any other words could do. I think I would enjoy reading this aloud more than silently. As well as The Aeneid, the prolific and versatile Ruden has produced wonderfully original versions of Aeschylus (The Oresteia), as well as Aristophanes, Apuleius, Petronius, Augustine and more. Polydamas says, plausibly, this sign means the Trojans should pull back from attacking the Greek wall: casualties will be too high, and gains few." One characteristic of Homeric verse is the formulaic epithet: much-suffering Odysseus, lovely-ankled Ino. These arose as byproducts of oral composition pitons, Mendelsohn calls them, stuck into the vast face of the epic to provide a momentary respite for both bard and hearers. Basically, it's the first time I'm reading The Odyssey without dozing off on every other page. One might assume optimistically that things have changed. What has that been like? Just the fact of never having a female teacher, but its a difference to how you feel when you dont have any mentors who dont even know what it would be like. Emily Wilson, recipient of The MacArthur Fellowship "genius grant" has received attention worldwide as the first woman to publish an English translation of Homer's epic poem, The Odyssey. In them, he offered a takedown of existing translations of Homer and then asked in what faithfulness exists: The translator of Homer should above all be penetrated by a sense of four qualities that he is eminently rapid; that he is eminently plain and direct both in the evolution of his thought and in the expression of it, that is, both in his syntax and in his words; that he is eminently plain and direct in the substance of his thought, that is, in his matter and ideas; and, finally, that he is eminently noble.. I partly just want to shake them and make them see that all translations are interpretations. Most of the criticism Wilson expects, she says, will come from a digging in of the heels: Thats not what it says in the dictionary, and therefore it cant be right! And if you put down anything other than whats said in the dictionary, then, of course, you have to add a footnote explaining why, which means that pretty much every line has to have a footnote. Wilson is at her best in one of the poems greatest scenes, the first meeting in Book 19 between Penelope and her unrecognized husband: Her face was melting, like the snow that Zephyr scatters across the mountain peaks; then Eurus thaws it, and as it melts, the rivers swell and flow again. Rather, they were slaves, and if women, only barely. Today, Wilson is working on several different projects, including a translation of Homer's Iliad and a book about translation itself, titled Faithful.Although she has already finished several books of the Iliad, it has been a unique project."The whole mood of the poem is totally different from the mood of The Odyssey," Wilson explains, "It took quite some time to get my head around how . The story is so good/intense it ruined my life for a solid week. Close to perfect for the first time reader, Reviewed in the United States on February 12, 2013. Emily Wilsons translation of Homers Odyssey will be published in the autumn by Norton. I liked more or less everything about it. I'm terms of being well-done poetically, I'd recommend Robert Fitzgerald's translation (he also did the Odyssey and the Aeneid).. It's worth mentioning, though, that he's one of the translators Emily Wilson picks out as making some needlessly sexist choices - e.g. f you look up the subject heading female classicists in the large research library catalogue at the university where I teach, a grand total of five books pop up of which two are separate editions of, Innovative, stylish versions of Greek tragedies Anne Carson. Throughout her translation of the Odyssey, Wilson has made small but, it turns out, radical changes to the way many key scenes of the epic are presented radical in that, in 400 years of versions of the poem, no translator has made the kinds of alterations Wilson has, changes that go to truing a text that, as she says, has through translation accumulated distortions that affect the way even scholars who read Greek discuss the original. It took away a whole level of shame., As an undergraduate at Balliol College, Oxford, Wilson studied classics and philosophy. Emily Wilson is the College for Women Class of 1963 Term Professor in the Humanities, professor of Classical Studies, and graduate chair of the Program in Comparative Literature & Literary. I think its very interesting thats still with us. I'm posting this review because Amazon keeps emailing me asking how many stars I would give the Iliad and every time I see that email come up I just think "oh my god stop asking me this book ripped my soul to shreds and rendered me void of any spirit for a week PLEASE DON'T REMIND ME." Dedicated to her grandmother Elsie, Wilsons first book, Mocked With Death, grew out of her dissertation and was published in 2004. On Wednesday, translator Emily Wilson GRD '01 delivered the 2020 edition of the Mark Strand Memorial Reading, where she read from her in-progress translations of Homer's "Iliad" and Sophocles' "Oedipus Tyrannus" on a Zoom webinar.. They knew that an encounter with this alien language and culture could help them move, feel, think and write differently. The students of Girton and Smith who performed Electra were showing off their intellectual capacity, but at the same time they were defusing any political threat; the choice of play reassured their audiences that classical education for women would reinforce their sense of duty and subjection. All English translators of Homer face a basic problem. Wed 22 Aug 2018 02.29 EDT Last modified on Tue 28 Aug 2018 11.53 EDT. But Wilson aims for a direct equation: one line of English for one of Greek. Guernica: What impact did the success of your translation have on you? Anne Dacier translated Homers Iliad into French prose in 1699 and his Odyssey nine years later. Some of the media coverage has made me uncomfortable, because it reflects Anglophone hegemony. Wilson. The first of these changes is in the very first line. Anyone can read what you share. Wilson is good too with the poems undertones and double meanings. The 70 translations? But Wilson, in her introduction, reminds us that these palace women maidservants has often been put forward as a correct translation of the Greek , dmoai, which Wilson calls an entirely misleading and also not at all literal translation, the root of the Greek meaning to overpower, to tame, to subdue werent free. Its imagined as a subset of outreach. "[8], Wilson's next works primarily focused on Rome's tragic playwright Seneca. Please try your request again later. Many of the most dedicated (such as Pamela Mensch, Sarah Ruden, Caroline Alexander and Josephine Balmer) have no institutional affiliation and are thus free from the pressure to produce work that counts for tenure. Yopie Prins addresses this question in Ladies Greek: Victorian Translations of Tragedy, her splendid new study of late 19th- and early 20th-century female translators of ancient Greek tragedy. The Odyssey is the original collection of tall traveller's tales. That there could still be big questions about a nearly-three-millenniums-old poem that most everyone has heard of it has exerted an influence on writers, from Virgil to Milton to Joyce has everything to do with how Wilson is seeking to redefine the job of modern literary scholarship, an ambition that seems, in part, an inheritance. This article was amended on 10 July 2017 to give Diane Arnson Svarliens full name. To listen in full, and to all our Close Readings series, sign up here: lrb.me/closereadings It could be that hes the turner.. The result is an idiom of great spareness and simplicity: But I am sure that he is not yet dead. Wilson did write a range of books before tenure, most on canonical texts: her study of suffering and death in literature; a monograph on Socrates. Regardless of intentions, however, female translators often stand at a critical distance when approaching authors who are not only male, but also deeply embedded in a canon that has for many centuries been imagined as belonging to men. A Version of Homer That Dares to Match Him Line for Line, https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/books/review/odyssey-homer-emily-wilson-translation.html. The general plainness of the language makes longer or unusual words stand out. Following a lengthy introduction, she provides a translation of Homer's work in iambic pentameter. Whatever the truth of their origin, the two stories, developed around three thousand years ago, may well still be read in three thousand years' time. The Iliad and Odyssey are composed in a long dactylic line (tumpety-tumpety-tum) thats poorly suited to the natural rhythms of English. Barry B. Powell was born in Sacramento, CA, in 1942. 4.74.7 out of 5 stars(732) Audible Audiobook $0.00$0.00$44.49$44.49 Free with Audible trial Available instantly Kindle $15.99$15.99$19.99$19.99 Available instantly Hardcover Other format: Paperback The Odyssey by Homer, Emily Wilson - translator, et al. In 2014 she published The Greatest Empire: A Life of Seneca. Im trying to serve something.. So it would be GREAT if you can mention the name of the translator in the product description. This is true of the blockbuster Hollywood imaginings of ancient Greece and Rome such as Troy, 300 and Gladiator all male-directed films in which female characters exist primarily as eye candy. Her books include The Death of Socrates: Hero, Villain, Chatterbox, Saint (2007) and The Greatest Empire: A Life of Seneca (2014). I had a childhood where it was very hard to name feelings, and just the fact that tragedy as a genre is very good at naming feelings. Emily Wilson. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 22, 2020. Its describing a boys club. In the Iliad, it is Achilles, the greatest of the Greeks, a demigod almost invulnerable to death. Achilles is forced to give Briseis to Agamemnon which leads to Achilles sulking in his tent and refusing to fight. I need to have a better answer to them, because they will certainly review it, and they will certainly have a loud voice. , Item Weight Its just the boys club., I do think that gender matters, Wilson said later, and Im not going to not say its something Im grappling with. [6], Wilson has authored five books. The play was staged by 19th-century female students keen to show their intellectual worth. As you can see here a number of reviews for different editions have been cross posted together by Amazon, and so this is a review for the Amazon Classics edition which is a translation by Lord Stanley. Those are the four? They just seem to be coming from such a simple and fundamental misunderstanding., What a translation is doing and what it should do has been a source of vigorous debate since there were texts to translate. The mood and voice needs to be distinctive and entirely itself. My name is Zameer Ahmed. [7] Her next book, The Death of Socrates (2007), examines Socrates' execution. Professor Emily Wilson will deliver the 2020 Mark Strand Memorial Reading online on Wednesday, October 7, at 4pm (a zoom link will be posted and circulated in October). Not all female-translated texts are marketed as such; the Amazon listing of Menschs The Age of Caesar lists Plutarch and James Romm (the classicist who wrote the footnotes) as the primary authors. He was one of a long line of bards, or poets, who worked in the oral tradition. translating the fairly neutral word used of Odysseus's hanged slave-girls as 'whores'. Learn more. At first glance one is reminded of the translation from Odyssey 11 that opens Ezra Pounds Cantos. Pound wanted to evoke Anglo-Saxon alliterative verse (We set up mast and sail on that swart ship / Bore sheep aboard her ). Last Name. [12][13], In January 2020, Wilson joined the Booker Prize judging panel, alongside Margaret Busby (chair), Lee Child, Sameer Rahim and Lemn Sissay. . But to consult Wilsons 60 some predecessors, living and dead, is to find that consensus has been hard to come by. Now Wilson has returned with an equally revelatory translation of the first great Homeric epic: the, In Wilsons hands, this exciting and often horrifying work now gallops at a pace befitting its best battle scenes, roaring with the clamor of arms, the bellowing boasts of victors, and the anguished cries of dying men. [5] Wilson's parents divorced shortly before she went to college. Please try again. 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