If you want to know more or withdraw your consent to all or some of the cookies, please refer to the. The chances were right there! And Maddux? (Youre exactly correct, Clark said.) " People judge too much by results. (John Swart / Associated Press), Will Clark bats at Wrigley in 1989 (Jonathan Daniel / Getty Images). Yeah, that was true. He didnt do that much, particularly in his prime. Many of these are pitches are not even all that close they are two, three, four inches off the plate, sometimes more. Richard M. Dixon, aka Scooter Duggan. 1987 DONRUSS #36 GREG MADDUX RC CUBS HOF PSA 10 DNA AUTO 10 B1022074-408. Greg has stolen eleven bases in his career while thrice being caught. One year we went to Hawaii. -- Greg Maddux, I only know one way to pitch. When I read that, my eyebrows became erect. From 1992-1998, seven seasons, Maddux went 127-53 with a 2.15 ERA, he won four consecutive Cy Young Awards, he led the league in ERA four times, in WHIP four times, in Fielding Independent Pitching four times, in fewest homers per nine four times, in fewest walks per nine three times, in strikeout-to-walk ratio three times its like he ascended the mountaintop and became a pitching flash of light as he connected with the universe. However, these statistics presented as facts are not correct. Pinning down the precise origin story is tricky; Jayson Stark dived into the topic years ago and wound up with more theories and dead ends than a search for Bigfoot. I try to keep as simple as possible. Evan Thompson is a member of the Roland Hemond (AZ) Chapter of the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR). You just cant do it, Maddux said. We usually go to Pebble or Bandon Dunes. As the baseball pitcher stepped onto the field, Maddux donned his Braves jersey, and he tipped his cap, responding to a standing ovation from the crowd. I try to keep as simple as possible. Maddux relied on a sinker, circle changeup, cutter, and two- and four-seam fastball during his 23-year career. pic.twitter.com/mcXx0MemJf, Detroit Tigers (@tigers) March 19, 2020. In the other 19, the batter put the ball in play. I will be back. -- Greg Maddux, I look forward to another good year next year. Each pitch in his mind was measured not so much by movement and location as by conviction. I want to be back. And, in baseball terms: Thank God I didnt miss it.. You feel so comfortable against him, Joe Girardi said. Pride was a fluent lip-reader, and Maddux says that pitchers around the league were well aware of that. But this was part of the magic he wasnt trying to make any of those lists. He files all that information away. $499.99. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Greg Maddux is indubitably one of the greatest pitchers ever to toe the slab. Across his 23 seasons, he walked 999 hitters. In other words, the last pitch of the plate appearance came on a 30 count. 177 of those were intentional walks, the meme reads. We usually go to Pebble or Bandon Dunes. I mean, we (pitchers) never even thought about it until he started doing it. He explained that you can see something that pertains to what theyre going to do. Have to watch Bartolos HR when I need a little boost. He pitched complete games in much less than two hours without ever throwing one eye-popping pitch. As Clark remembers it, Mitchell asked him, What are you going to look for?, I said, Well, I was gonna look fastball in, anyway. The game was against the Cubs. The Thrill was already 2 for 2 off Maddux in Game 1, having doubled in a run in the first inning and hitting a solo homer in the third. Even in his last year in the big leagues, his slider would get into the upper-80s. The mystery of Maddux. In 293 of those, the batter walked; 153 were intentional. He threw a three-hit shutout to kick things off in Atlanta. And how much money does Greg Maddux earn? An interview request to the Hall of Fame media relations department,sheepishly wondering if Maddux might be willing to talk about Clark, was answered quickly and enthusiastically. He had to be able to see someone where he could see exactly what they said and I guarantee, he was like, forget that, they aint reading my lips.. Greg Maddux, a Hall of Famer, threw out the ceremonial first pitch during Game 5 of the World Series in 2021. I guess I'll have to get a second job. -- Greg Maddux, I would love to try to win another game. He was a special player, the pitcher said in June. " Greg Maddux 2. I will be back., I look forward to another good year next year. 2003 - The Braves and Greg Maddux avoid arbitration with a one-year, $14.75 million deal which is the largest one year contract in league history. I really do., I daydream just like everybody else. Yes, the pitcher and the catcher are talking to each other to strategize how they attack the hitters and I can't believe how much I love this.pic.twitter.com/wUTdk2mrgN. Lets take a deep breath and dive into some key moments in this evolution of baseball protocol. And he said that he wasnt. Oh, poor me (jokingly, after being told that Randy Johnson & Pedro Martinez would make more in 2003 than he would). Analysts continually said his fastball topped out at 84 or 85 mph, for instance. and our I daydream just like everybody else. Peter Morris included that anecdote in his book, A Game of Inches: The Stories Behind the Innovations That Shaped Baseball and went on to say that when Allen returned to the U.S. in 1991, the practice had already caught on in the states. Yeah, I saw him say fastball in and, yeah, I was looking fastball in, but Ill take you back. But finally, we get to the game that changed everything, May 17 against the Cardinals. In '92, scout Chuck Koney gave his fastball a '7' on the 2-8 scouting scale, which means that his fastball was sitting around 95 mph. In those three seasons, Maddux faced 3,060 batters, and 158 roughly 5.1% saw a 30 count. The key to pitching is to have the ability to throw a strike when they're taking and throw a ball when the hitter is swinging. With this extremely quick and easy debunking process of checking ourselves, we can see that the meme was wrong, but only by a numbers. If you are going to get beat, get beat with your best pitch. His best pitch was the fastball. In this installment of Baseball Mythbusters, we will look at Greg Maddux and the 30 count. Follow AzQuotes on Facebook, Twitter and Google+. Greg Maddux Simple, Two, Special 19 Copy quote Consistency is something you can always improve on. It's hard to know what people really expect of you, and I've never tried to live up to expectations anyway. The quotes from Clark here are from a recorded 2016 interview with this reporter when Clark spoke about his torrid NLCS against the Cubs. His feature story on Sergio Romo and a young cancer patient won first place in feature writing from the Associated Press Sports Editors in 2015. One year we went to Hawaii. The baseball world was mourning the passing of one of its most beloved players on Monday, as San Diego Padres legend Tony Gwynn lost his battle with cancer at the age of 54. I expect to be back. Let me give you a little heads up to all of this stuff, OK? he said. Ja Morant had unfortunately timed endorsement announcement, Jim Harbaugh offers comment on receiving interest from NFL, Former Red Sox champion lands with new team. He was terrific in Des Moines, but was even worse when they called him back. In fact, Maddux saw Gwynn more than anyone. Maddux gives an example: Lets say he faces a batter early in the game and gets him out on the first pitch. Exactly, Clark said. Cookie Notice On May 17, 1988, Greg Maddux threw 10 shutout innings at Wrigley Field against the St. Louis Cardinals. Instead, the meme couldve read Greg Maddux faced 20,421 batters during his career. And as a pitcher, strikes are incredibly valuable.. Then again, Clark didnt want to give sole credit to his baseball espionage. Then he went to St. Louis and pitched well again. In Madduxs mind and this is important to know when looking at his career the words pitching and confidence were practically synonyms. You remember the glasses. 177 of those were intentional walks," the meme reads. But I really know how to do this. 2004-2023 CBS Interactive. Every day we present the best quotes! You kind of go there to sign a contract and everything.". He knew it in his heart as he stood on the mound the changeup was the pitch. Maddux did face 20,421 batters over the course of his 23-year career. Note: Portions of this series were adapted from previous work that originated on my personal blog. I had to be aware of myself, that everything is being recorded.. You can always do more of what you are doing well and try to be as consistent as you can be. It's hard to know what people really expect of you, and I've never tried to live up to expectations anyway. Lets just make sure were using the right number when describing Madduxs stats. When statistics are presented to talk about how really great Maddux was, the deserved response is yep, he sure was great!. "It might be the last time we ever see 300," Kasten says. Greg Maddux is my favorite pitcher of all time. Maddux heard all of that stuff and he didnt throw the changeup when his instincts told him that was the pitch to throw. I used to read the lips of the pitcher and the pitching coach when I was in the batters box.. What? He struck out 676 batters and walked just 289. Former Braves president Stan Kasten promised Greg Maddux months ago that he would attend the game in which Maddux tried for his 300th career win. Im not sure if Maddux invented it or if he simply took it to a different level from anyone before him. He suggested it may have started with Mark Fidrych, but was mostly kidding, since Fidrych spoke so demonstrably to the baseball that you could read his lips from space. It was like someone letting the air out of your balloon, Maddux would say. I was under the impression I had signed a three-year contract. And let's not forget that this was during one of the offensive heights in baseball history. Thanks for contacting us. Interview with Matt Ginella, www.golfdigest.com. You can be more consistent with your mental approach, the things you do physically on the mound. One reason was his pinpoint control, with his ability to notch front-corner strikes leading to claims that umpires gave him a much wider strike zone than the rest of the league. There is a legend that in 2006, his Dodgers teammate Brad Penny, who was coming off a game where he got badly roughed up by the Mets, asked Maddux if he would call the pitches for him from the dugout the next time out. If thats not respect, I dont know what is. We dont really know in what counts 20 of his intentional walks came in, but we know that at least four of them came with one strike against the batter. Me, I try to locate better., Consistency is something you can always improve on. This Nike commercial featuring the two Baseball Hall of Fame pitchers, St. Louis Cardinals slugger Mark McGwire and actress Heather Locklear was incredible when it was first released in 1999 . He worked through things in spring training, and by Opening Day he did feel more positive and self-assured. You're not going to win by automatically going out there. My friend, who was normally shy and reserved, did these things as enthusiastically as everyone else. Hall of Famer Greg Maddux is one of the greatest pitchers of the Live Ball Era. I mean, it wasnt Madduxs fault, hed gotten the groundout. He wanted to stay in. Sandberg thought the ball might have hit the lip where the grass and the infield dirt meet, but reporters didnt think so. Hed already thrown about 150 pitches, but nobody cared about pitch counts in those days, least of all Maddux. Last year, if I threw 100 pitches, Id throw five curveballs, he said after the St. Louis game. Upon joining the Braves, Maddux would lead the league in ERA, complete games and innings pitched in each of his first three seasons, collecting a Cy Young for each campaign. He could do anything he wanted with a baseball. I really do. -- Greg Maddux, I daydream just like everybody else. You kind of go there to sign the contract and everything. Maddux was only 23 years old in 1989. Well hear from both parties shortly, but the quick version is that Clark believes that was the tipping point in pitchers covering their mouths with their gloves during mound sessions. On 14-4-1966 Greg Maddux (nickname: Mad Dog) was born in San Angelo, Texas. On that front, the pitcher simply tipped a retroactive cap. We could spend all day listing Gwynns mind-boggling career achievements. I really do. So, fastball, over the plate, and thats a stolen strike. 8th inning: Three groundouts. Who wants to be the party pooper to wreck the show? Lastly, the meme said that 310 saw 30 counts. Braves fans? Seven of those 19 times, the batter notched a base hit; the other 12 times, the batter made an out. Right: .215/.242/.302. I just throw my fastball (to) both sides of the plate and change speed every now and then. His first and biggest love is baseball. To find how many hitters faced a 30 count against Greg Maddux, we must look at the row labeled After 30. This brings us to the correct number 644. He faced 893 batters that season. Maybe its this: I love baseball, and I love sleight-of-hand magic, and Maddux was the closest thing Ive seen to a bridge between the two. Between their success and trades of, Its amazing how quickly those on the PGA Tour have done a 180 regarding cuts in tournament golf. Maddux, who instead signed with the Atlanta Braves, nonetheless played a pivotal role in the Bronx Bombers' next championship. I'd rather try and not win than not try at all., I was under the impression I had signed a three-year contract. Maddux left that game disgusted with himself. I expect to be back. The ball was there for us!. 4th inning: Two groundouts and one infield lineout Wow. Still, he knows Clarks version of events, about how the first baseman glimpsed the coming attractions straight from the pitchers mouth. Many see 30 count and notice that there are 312 plate appearances (PA) something the original meme creator might have rounded down to 310. Myth: Greg Maddux faced 20,421 batters during his career. It's about winning. Still, there was a meme that packages statistics of Madduxs career that arent really talked about. And hes Greg Maddux. I take golf trips with my brother or with friends. Maddux confirmed Sutcliffes scouting report. His control was so impeccable that Orel Hershiser once said Maddux can throw a ball in a teacup. The reality of Greg Maddux is amazing enough. On Monday, ESPNs Ethan Strauss reminded us about a fantastic quote that Maddux once had about Gwynn that summed up his sensational career. Wet grass is slippery -- Greg Maddux, I don't believe for one second that the eye surgery has helped me on the mound -- Greg Maddux, You're not going to win by automatically going out there. My stuff was all right, but it's not about pitching good. Wet grass is slippery, I don't believe for one second that the eye surgery has helped me on the mound, You're not going to win by automatically going out there. Baseball News, Analysis, History, Schedule, Rumors. And you know, thats not cheating. It wasnt Sandbergs fault that the ball took an absurd and unpredictable hop. It was his fundamentals, his mechanics putting him in position, but it was also because he put in the work to be excellent at a thing a lot of pitchers don't care about at all. as he peered out to the mound during that fourth-inning at-bat, Don Zimmer had a height disadvantage when he came out to talk to Greg Maddux during Game 1 of the 1989 NLCS. Greg Maddux was good. (Photo: Timothy A. Clary / AFP via Getty Images). It's an 89 MPH sinker, and you won't even swing at it." -Greg Maddux 290 Baseball Sports 23 comments Add a Comment boredlawyer90 The true GOAT. But while the stories may have overstated things for effect, it is certainly true that Maddux did not work with those one or two death-defying pitches that have marked the greatest pitchers ever. I look forward to another good year next year. Theyre a whole other thing. I didnt know whether he was going to take Maddux out, Clark said. Hed had a brief crisis of confidence. There were a couple times when Id be talking to a pitcher and Id come back in the dugout and some of my fellow coaches would say, We know youre throwing first-pitch slider, or something like that. In their regular-season battles, Clark was 11 for 46 (.239) against Maddux with one homer, six walks, 13 strikeouts and a .709 OPS. That's it. Keep in mind that this data only goes back to 1988, so we must adjust batters faced to 19,576 and intentional walks to 162. Throwing 4 seam two seam that sinks . This may sound pretty typical for Maddux in his heyday the guy threw a lot of shutout. Maddux was the ace of a Braves team that dominated the division throughout most of the 1990s and early 2000s. The reason I think I'm a good pitcher is I locate my fastball and I change speeds. Maddux was drafted and signedby the Chicago Cubs in 1982, but he wouldn't make his MLBdebut until a couple years later. The Yankees had offered the right-hander $6 million more. In 1996, when teams were averaging 5.04 runs per game, at the time the highest rate since the 1930s, Greg Maddux's ERA was less than half that at 2.72. The Giants won the NLCS in five games. It was what the ball did in the last 10 feet that mattered. No, he wanted to do them because he thought it was fun and silly and, anyway, he didnt want to wreck the show. Then there is the pitcher with a 4.50 ERA in 2020. The mound visit just removed all reasonable doubt. He was also a dancer(with the arm-flapping abilities of Kermit the Frog). Theres a legend that once when he was with the Cubs, Maddux just started screaming at Atlantas David Justice for no apparent reason. So mind-blowing, in fact, that it seems too good to be true. He gets off the mound. But Im definitely gonna look now, Clark said. He just doesnt want us to read his lips, Hudler said. And then I see Maddux covering his mouth, Clark said. Yeah, you read that right. How would he feel then? The Baseball Hall of Fame spent 11 . I want to be back. You can be more consistent with your mental approach, the things you do physically on the mound. The ball was there for us, Williams said. I guess I'll have to get a second job., I would love to try to win another game. The last 10 feet, he says. 5th inning: Three groundouts In Game 2 of the 1996 World Series, he walked to the mound in the first inning at Yankee Stadium with a 1-0 lead, and he promptly put sleeper hold on the Yankees and the city of New York. Theres a legend my favorite legend, not least because its definitely true that after he won his 17th Gold Glove, breaking Jim Kaats record, he got a congratulatory message from Kaat. Gone. Maddux was a maestro 82 pitches, 62 strikes, two strikeouts, no walks, a ground-ball symphony. Across his 23-year MLB career, the first-ballot Hall of Famer stacked up 355 wins; four Cy Young awards; more than. In the lead-up to the 2021 World Series, Atlanta Braves legend Tom Glavine is not one to cast a stone at the Houston Astros for their infamous sign-stealing scandal. You dont think the hitter, Austin Riley, would have loved to have had an earpiece for that at-bat? And if your balls doing something in that last 10 feet, that can be just as impressive as how fast it goes over 60 feet.. And, you know, I told him, Coop! 1. He has not, however, failed in an attempt since the 2000 season, going a perfect 7-7 since. I just have so much more confidence in that pitch.. And Maddux lost the game. The first problem with the 310 batters faced a 30 count claim is this: pitch count data is not available until 1988. No, he is not haunted by the moment. She said, You know, if youre going to motherf*** the world, you should cover your mouth.. That's what pitchers have to do to win games -- Greg Maddux, I could probably throw harder if I wanted, but why? Madduxs walk rate during those two seasons was 10.1%, more than twice as high as the rest of his career. You see it all the time now, Brantley said. Yes, the Yankees ended up winning that series they touched up Maddux for three runs in Game 6 to win it all but there was something extraordinary about that earlier game. Im looking right at Maddux right at him and he goes, fastball in. And I was like, Oh my goodness. I looked at Kevin Mitchell and said, Did you see what he just said?, Mitchell, in a separate phone interview, remembered it well: Yep. You know what Im saying? Throughout the day, @MLBNetwork is airing its documentary on Mark Fidrych before showing his complete game on June 28, 1976 vs. the Yankees. It was incredible to see but what I remember most was the Yankees clubhouse after the game. The thing I am trying to keep in mind is that relying on my past performance will not make me win my next game, it'll only get in my way. -- Greg Maddux, I'd rather try and not win than not try at all -- Greg Maddux, Oh, poor me (jokingly, after being told that Randy Johnson & Pedro Martinez would make more in 2003 than he would). Yes, Maddux recalls the Game 1 performance in which Clark went 4 for 4 with six RBIs. It would be nice to win, too., I don't care if we're out of it or not, if I've got a chance to pitch, I want to., My stuff was all right, but it's not about pitching good. While we remember him now as the bespectacled professor who would simply drop 86 mph fastballs on the corner with such precision we thought he was using a protractor, it's important to remember that the dude could deal, too. There were 310 batters that faced Maddux in 30 counts, but the creator shouldve added at least two more. Hundreds of pitchers . $40.00. Will Clark (@WillClark22) July 19, 2022. Greg Maddux Facts & Wiki Where does Greg Maddux live? Wrigleys either the best place in the league to pitch in or the worst. Like most legends, Maddux has really awesome statistics that are worth sharing. I think that was one of those games where if he got it up in the air, it was going out.. The Athletics Alec Lewis, Rustin Dodd, Chad Jennings, C. Trent Rosecrans and Zach Buchanan contributed to this report, (Top Image: John Bradford / The Athletic; Photos: David Madison, Ronald Martinez / Getty Images). Two runs scored. The first one was personal. As a child, Dave Maddux began teaching his son how to play baseball. You tell a legendary story about Ryan and it will involve speed and force. Then in late December Maddux surprisingly and without warning accepted arbitration. This statement further cements his reputation as a control artist. And thats why I wasnt made an offer. Answer (1 of 14): All good answers so far, so I won't repeat the obvious bits: Defense: Pitcher defense is not one of the first hundred things that comes to mind when most people think about baseball. One former GM responded to the emailed question immediately to say it was the classic Giants-Cubs in the 1989 NLCS but he recalled the big lip-reading moment as being Clark vs. Les Lancaster. Vintage San Diego Padres Lot Tony Gwynn Roberto Alomar Rookie Greg Maddux Mint. Finesse is just not a word you often hear to describe mythical beasts like Maddux. Bowas quote, as you will see, foreshadows what would make Greg Maddux unlike any other pitcher in the history of baseball. Thats what worked for me. The former Atlanta Braves hurler faced Gwynn 107 times during their overlapping Hall-of-Fame careers. I loved those guys and so many others, but Maddux was a breed apart for reasons that, even now, Im not entirely sure I can put into words. I could probably throw harder if I wanted, but why? Me, I try to locate better. -- Greg Maddux, Consistency is something you can always improve on. Hes not bragging now, and he certainly didnt brag then. Maddux spent most of his childhood growing up in Madrid, Spain because his father was stationed there while in the Air Force. 3rd inning: Two groundouts and a caught stealing After Justice struck out, he was enraged. I dont do it anymore. There's only one surprise: Greg Maddux, who won three Cy Young Awards and reached the postseason 10 times as a member of the Atlanta Braves, will not go into the Hall as an Atlanta Brave. And he didnt come in that at-bat. There is a legend that once Maddux was sitting in the dugout watching the game closely. Because even after reading lips that day, Clark zipped his own shut. Maddux made it look like he was all but defenseless out there. What? Yes, Maddux is good but really they just beat themselves. Me, I try to locate better. I mean, the conversations with Zim were usually just to kill time to get the bullpen ready, he said. So thats kind of where that started, Maddux said. He does it with (pause, think, pause) a lot of finesse.. You can always do more of what you are doing well and try to be as consistent as you can be. -- Greg Maddux, When people say (nice) things you take them as compliments and it's nice, but it won't help you win your next game. And thats when Maddux threw a fastball that sunk just so and prompted Alicea to ground the ball to second baseman Ryne Sandberg. The hypnotist called a dozen or so people up on the stage, including a friend of mine, and then proceeded to hypnotize them and have them do various absurd but harmless things act like a chicken, sing a song out loud, etc. He struck out 15 times during the entire 1995 season a year in which he batted .368. I expect to be back. I only know one way to pitch. The assumptions of Maddux being a great pitcher are absolutely correct. There is a legend that, while watching Jos Hernndez batting, Maddux noticed a slight shift in the batting stance. When I read that, my eyebrows became erect. He also is a credentialed member of the Diamondbacks press corps for Last Word on Baseball. The right-hander used a combination of location and changing speeds to keep hitters off balance rather than blow them away with high velocity. Even if this were a harmless accident by the memes creator, that doesnt mean we should just assume something is a fact because we already consider Maddux a great pitcher. It would be nice to win, too. The back and forth . Something I missed out on was witnessing the greatness of Greg Maddux pitch a baseball. "I was shocked I didn't get offered a contract. Thats mostly true. When Germn Mrquez allowed a ninth-inning lead-off hit Tuesdaya solidly hit single to right fieldhe lost his bid for a no-hitter. Stealing one base in each of. To me, thats just being heads up. Its important to note here that Clark has no desire to gloat. Greg Maddux Awards, he also shines defensively, as evidenced by his 13 consecutive Golden Glove Awards since 1990. When (Pride) was with Montreal, he could read the lips from the dugout if pitchers didnt cover their mouths. I feel like I can be more aggressive, he said. A popular meme says that out of the 20,421 batters Maddux faced in his career, only 310 saw a 30 count and 177 were intentional walks. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. "I don't even think about. There are a lot of shots in golf I can't hit, but I try to hit them anyway. All Rights Reserved. I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention., Regardless of where you're pitching, regardless of what goes on before or after your game, you still have to be ready., There are a lot of shots in golf I can't hit, but I try to hit them anyway. And I tagged it. His worst miss, by distance, missed across the plate but also missed low, so it was just a ball, and nothing. I wouldnt even say that I am partial to pitchers of Madduxs particular style; Ive always preferred power pitchers. The Gibsons, the Koufaxes and Drysdales did it with power and intimidation, a befuddled Yankees manager Joe Torre said. It is, Jim Harbaugh offered a comment recently on the interest he and others have received from NFL teams. "The best pitchers have a short term memory and a bullet proof confidence.". Greg Maddux, who was a key part of the Braves powerhouse teams in the 1990s, revealed on an episode of the Toeing the Slab podcast with David Cone that he didnt intend on signing with Atlanta at all. I pitched just good enough to lose. He wound up signing a five-year, $28 million pact with the Braves, and that turned into one of the biggest free-agent steals ever, at least from the club standpoint. That's what you do to pitch. What is it that pitching coaches always say? I'd rather try and not win than not try at all. If we are going to talk about stealing pitches, we do need to talk about the Maddux strike zone. Whether or not Maddux actually received an official offer from the Yankees, it's a tantalizing hypothetical for Yankees fans. In 2024, for their designated events, they are planning to have fewer, Has Aaron Rodgers made a decision about his future with the Green Bay Packers? This was early in the pandemic, and Strom went out to talk to a pitcher while wearing a mask and still used his hand to cover his mouth. Think about it: Its a big moment, bases loaded maybe, game on the line maybe, and he throws a pitch exactly where he wants it, one that buckles the hitter, one that sends the crowd into a frenzy, a pitch that may or may not be one inch off the plate. The Giants led 8-3 en route to a tone-setting 11-3 series-opening victory. Later, when they were teammates, Justice asked Maddux why he did that. Gloves down so everyone can hear. I kid you not. That's what pitchers have to do to win games. Has Aaron Rodgers made a decision about his future with Packers? 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